Here's a Page on 1timothy4-13.com
At first I thought it was an argument that the Bible DOESN'T say that Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit were one--because all of the verses except a few seem to plainly be talking about three different things.
However, then he gets to
1 John 5:7
Which does say that All three are one.
However, look here:
1 John 5:7 and the Record in Heaven
In any case, it's a highly divisive debate between Christians, who believe John 3:18 For those Christians who buy into John 3:18, there is a two question test at the end of life.
1. Do you believe in the name of the only begotten son of God?
and
2. What is that name?
Depending on whether that name is "Jesus" or "Christ" or "Messiah" or "Allah" if that name is "Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit".
If you get that answer wrong, then the personal stakes are quite high. You either go to heaven to your eternal reward, or you go to hell for eternal condemnation.
At no point in ANY of the gospels does it say "You must believe in the name of the Son of God, and that name is _________." So unfortunately, you have to just hope you've figured it out.
Now, Matthew, Mark, and Luke don't say anything like John 3:18. In general, their basic principles are (1) that if you don't forgive others, then neither will you be forgiven. and (2) Matthew 25:40 "Whatever you did for the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me."
The point is, Matthew, Mark, and Luke don't make ANY REQUIREMENT OF BELIEF WHATSOEVER. To them, it's all about your actions, and behavior.
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Luke 12:10, by the way, couldn't make the difference between "The Son" and "The Holy Spirit" any more stark.
"And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."
I'm not exactly sure what blaspheming the Holy Spirit means, but what John did by removing all reference to forgiveness and kindness, and replacing it with "Belief in the Name of God's Only Begotten Son" comes close to blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Because the Holy Spirit isn't about believing in a freaking NAME you don't even know, and kicking people around if they disagree with you about what that name is.
It's about being kind, and charitable, and celebrating life, and doing nice things for each other, and cooperating and cherishing, and following your passions, (Seeking God, so to speak) and encouraging others to do the same.
At first I thought it was an argument that the Bible DOESN'T say that Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit were one--because all of the verses except a few seem to plainly be talking about three different things.
However, then he gets to
1 John 5:7
Which does say that All three are one.
However, look here:
1 John 5:7 and the Record in Heaven
In any case, it's a highly divisive debate between Christians, who believe John 3:18 For those Christians who buy into John 3:18, there is a two question test at the end of life.
1. Do you believe in the name of the only begotten son of God?
and
2. What is that name?
Depending on whether that name is "Jesus" or "Christ" or "Messiah" or "Allah" if that name is "Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit".
If you get that answer wrong, then the personal stakes are quite high. You either go to heaven to your eternal reward, or you go to hell for eternal condemnation.
At no point in ANY of the gospels does it say "You must believe in the name of the Son of God, and that name is _________." So unfortunately, you have to just hope you've figured it out.
Now, Matthew, Mark, and Luke don't say anything like John 3:18. In general, their basic principles are (1) that if you don't forgive others, then neither will you be forgiven. and (2) Matthew 25:40 "Whatever you did for the least of my brothers and sisters, you did for me."
The point is, Matthew, Mark, and Luke don't make ANY REQUIREMENT OF BELIEF WHATSOEVER. To them, it's all about your actions, and behavior.
======================
Luke 12:10, by the way, couldn't make the difference between "The Son" and "The Holy Spirit" any more stark.
"And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."
I'm not exactly sure what blaspheming the Holy Spirit means, but what John did by removing all reference to forgiveness and kindness, and replacing it with "Belief in the Name of God's Only Begotten Son" comes close to blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Because the Holy Spirit isn't about believing in a freaking NAME you don't even know, and kicking people around if they disagree with you about what that name is.
It's about being kind, and charitable, and celebrating life, and doing nice things for each other, and cooperating and cherishing, and following your passions, (Seeking God, so to speak) and encouraging others to do the same.
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